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At first sight, we can already erase those three questions from the masterlist:

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7. Who wrote the diary note?

9. Was this note left here for some purpose? Did the author want us to read this note?

25. The diary is not completed; where is the second part? Was it written? Does it exist right now? Where?


10 May 2015 16:07
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still, it's mystery how diary page got to the place from first game.
:D

Ok, I again play the game to write observations and facts.

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10 May 2015 16:22
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Sublevel 102 wrote:
still, it's mystery how diary page got to the place from first game.
:D

yeah, though that's a different question.

Sublevel 102 wrote:
Ok, I again play the game to write observations and facts.

Good luck! :)


10 May 2015 16:32
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Master List: Sub1 Version wrote:

Fundamentals
1. What is “Submachine”?
2. Did I awake at beginning, or what?
3. Who am I? Do I know who I am?
4. Where am I? What is this place?
5. When am I? Do I know this?
6. Why am I here? Do I know this? What is our purpose of being there? What do I need to do?
8. Am I just a human? Or do I have some special powers, or something like that?
9. What did I feel, what did I think about, what did I want to do after I started?
10. How did I get here?
11. What purpose/function does this place serve?
12. Who decided to build this place? And who was constructing this place?
13. Where is this place located?
14. When was this place constructed?
16. Is somebody/something watching me?
17. Why does this place look like one big puzzle?

Submachine 1
1. What liquid flows in these pipes?
2. How can those cubes float? How are they connected to the bell sounds? How that storage is constructed and works?
3. What physics laws are present here?
4. Are these physics laws normal for world where we lived before?
6. What is an Ancient Crystal of Wisdom?

7. Who wrote the diary note?
8. How did this note get here?
9. Was this note left here for some purpose? Did the author want us to read this note?
10. Was the author sane when he was writing this note?
11. Did these events written in the diary happen for real?
12. Did the author of the note tell us the full truth? Or is he hiding something from us?
13. When did the events in the note happen?
14. Why did the author go camping? Did he have some particular target?
15. What is Kent? Where is it located?
16. What is Kent Waterfall? Where is it located?
17. Where exactly did the author of his arm?
18. How exactly did the author lose his arm?
19. What did the author mean when he said “third arm”? Is it a third limb, or something else?
20. Did the author already have this third arm before, or did he get it after the accident?
21. How exactly did the author get this arm? When? Where?
22. What is a karma arm? What structure and powers does it have?
23. What could the author do with the karma arm?
24. Who are the other people mentioned in the diary note?
25. The diary is not completed; where is the second part? Was it written? Does it exist right now? Where?

26. What happened when we inserted all of the tiles? Why did we end up in a red room? How did elevator appear? And what was that short darkness?
27. Did we enter the same way as we exited?
28. Where did we exit?
30. Why did we hear more footsteps after we escaped?

32. Who made soundtrack for this game?


Revised Master List: Sub1 Version wrote:

Fundamentals
1. What is “Submachine”?
2. Did I awake at beginning, or what?
3. Who am I? Do I know who I am?
4. Where am I? What is this place?
5. When am I? Do I know this?
6. Why am I here? Do I know this? What is our purpose of being there? What do I need to do?
8. Am I just a human? Or do I have some special powers, or something like that?
9. What did I feel, what did I think about, what did I want to do after I started?
10. How did I get here?
11. What purpose/function does this place serve?
12. Who decided to build this place? And who was constructing this place?
13. Where is this place located?
14. When was this place constructed?
16. Is somebody/something watching me?
17. Why does this place look like one big puzzle?

Submachine 1
1. What liquid flows in these pipes?
2. How can those cubes float? How are they connected to the bell sounds? How that storage is constructed and works?
3. What physics laws are present here?
4. Are these physics laws normal for world where we lived before?
6. What is an Ancient Crystal of Wisdom?

8. How did this note get here?
10. Was the author sane when he was writing this note?
11. Did these events written in the diary happen for real?
12. Did the author of the note tell us the full truth? Or is he hiding something from us?
13. When did the events in the note happen?
14. Why did the author go camping? Did he have some particular target?
15. What is Kent? Where is it located?
16. What is Kent Waterfall? Where is it located?
17. Where exactly did the author of his arm?
18. How exactly did the author lose his arm?
19. What did the author mean when he said “third arm”? Is it a third limb, or something else?
20. Did the author already have this third arm before, or did he get it after the accident?
21. How exactly did the author get this arm? When? Where?
22. What is a karma arm? What structure and powers does it have?
23. What could the author do with the karma arm?
24. Who are the other people mentioned in the diary note?

26. What happened when we inserted all of the tiles? Why did we end up in a red room? How did elevator appear? And what was that short darkness?
27. Did we enter the same way as we exited?
28. Where did we exit?
30. Why did we hear more footsteps after we escaped?

32. Who made soundtrack for this game?


10 May 2015 18:22
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so where are your observations, Sublevel? :)


19 May 2015 20:49
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here:

I forgot to write something after Mati's comments between sub1ext and Sub2.
Now...

<I break my rule...>

some facts and research:

1) In October 2005(!) many elements of first version of game (must be sketch of Sub2) were ready! Diary pages, IDEA, 1/4 of game..
Wow Mateusz, you rule! :D

2) God. Now I see it...

Look at this comment:
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Amanda:
Oh yeah, and that painting. Does that do anything?

Comment 154, Monday, October 24th 2005 02:17:00 PM

Murtaugh:
the painting has a signature on it.
sub_2

its a lighthouse where the second part will take place.

but - how is it going to be sub?.....

wait and see. :P

Comment 158, Monday, October 24th 2005 07:19:00 PM

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[b]but - how is it going to be sub?..... [/b]

wait and see. :P

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but - how is it going to be sub?.....


Submachine
single word on dark screen...

I didn't know what does it mean...

it was sub
and hell, from the start of development, lighthouse was going to be sub!

And from Sub2 sketch, we know how first game was called...

Chapter 1: The Machine

Sub Machine

OH MY...

as I understand: result is Lighthouse is underground, and...
it was all planned like this???

(hell, that's shock for me at least
:O)

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19 May 2015 22:21
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how is it a shock? even in the lighthouse sketch it was clear from the second part of Murtaugh's note that the place was underground.


20 May 2015 00:15
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I didn't know Mateusz planned underground sub in Oct 2005.

And I asked (as if I was in 2005): what does on dark intro screen Submachine mean? There was no explanation in game.

And for me, it wasn't obvious for me that original Submachine means submerged/underground location. In that comment, Mateusz directly made hint.

And Sub + The Machine = Submachine

shock is because I saw this only now, after years.
:P

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20 May 2015 00:27
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Of course the lighthouse was buried. I think the note in Sub2 stated that, its why he left the lighthouse, because they were going to bury it and his worst fear was being buried alive.

Liz backed it up further in Sub7 saying that no wonder they buried the lighthouse, the death toll was rising exponentially. So the lighthouse was located in the third layer, which is now shattered. We used the portal in the lighthouse which sent us to the loop, which I think is the same as the knot, it ties all layers together, placing the leaf on the pedestal, allowed us to access an entirely different layer, and sent us to the lab.

I think Mateusz has had the overall plot since the beginning, he's just added onto it over the years. It was around when Sub4 was made he said Submachine would go to 10, and he has so far kept true to his word.


20 May 2015 02:01
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Gemini wrote:
Of course the lighthouse was buried. I think the note in Sub2 stated that, its why he left the lighthouse, because they were going to bury it and his worst fear was being buried alive.

yeah, that's what I meant. It's the direct continuation of the note in Sub1 so it's obvious it was planned since the beginning :P


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